No way, 195? That's wild. I've been chasing that 203-205 window for years and thought that was basically a law of bbq physics. Pulling it off early like that and still taking first place makes me wonder if we've all been overthinking the stall and carryover cooking thing. Or maybe the judge's palates are shifting, or that guy just has some kind of witchcraft going on with his fire management. Either way, it kinda shakes what I thought I knew about brisket temps.