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Had a talk with a retired cabinetmaker that threw me for a loop

I was at a lumber yard in Omaha last week picking up some maple. An old timer saw my dust-covered truck and started chatting. He told me he stopped using pocket hole joinery on face frames over 15 years ago. Said it's fine for utility stuff but the movement over time always shows through the paint eventually. He swears by dowels and glue only, no screws at all for anything that gets seasonal humidity changes. I've been using pocket holes for years on kitchen cabinets and never had a call back. But he's been doing this since the 70s and his work is in some historic buildings around here. Got me wondering if I'm just not seeing the problems down the road. Has anyone else switched away from pocket holes after doing them for a long time?
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jake_kelly24
Is he actually right though? Like really how bad can a good pocket hole joint look after a few years?
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eric_johnson
Hey @jake_kelly24, ever seen a painted face frame crack along the screw line after a dry winter?
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